Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 17

01/31/2005 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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*+ HB 35 EXTEND BD ARCHITECTS/ENGINEERS/SURVEYORS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 61 CHARITABLE GAMING; CALCUTTA POOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 61(L&C) Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
= HB 15 SEASONAL HUNT/FISH LODGE LIQUOR LICENSE
Moved CSHB 15(L&C) Out of Committee
                                                                                                                              
HB  35-EXTEND BD ARCHITECTS/ENGINEERS/SURVEYORS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 35, "An Act extending the  termination date of                                                               
the State  Board of Registration  for Architects,  Engineers, and                                                               
Land Surveyors; and providing for an effective date."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:09:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VIC  KOHRING, Alaska State  Legislature, testified                                                               
as  the sponsor  of HB  35.   He  explained that  the bill  would                                                               
extend the  termination date of  the State Board  of Registration                                                               
for Architects, Engineers,  and Land Surveyors (AELS  Board).  He                                                               
remarked,  "It was brought to  my attention as a former member of                                                               
the  LB&A  [Legislative Budget  and  Audit]  committee that  this                                                               
organization was  going to  sunset ...  or it  would at  least go                                                               
into a  one year sunset  period and  then be terminated  one year                                                               
from Juneau if [the legislature]  did not take action this year."                                                               
He pointed out that there are  11 members on the board, including                                                               
two  civil engineers,  two land  surveyors, one  mining engineer,                                                               
one electrical or mechanical engineer,  one engineer from another                                                               
branch  of the  profession  of engineering,  two architects,  one                                                               
landscape architect,  and one public  member.  He  explained that                                                               
the  purpose of  the board  is to  provide for  public safety  in                                                               
terms of  issuing licenses in  these professions,  and conducting                                                               
disciplinary actions  as needed.   He noted that  the legislative                                                               
audit division found that the  organization is operating well and                                                               
serving   the  public   interest  effectively,   and  they   have                                                               
recommended that the board be continued.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PAT   DAVIDSON,   Legislative   Auditor,   Alaska   Division   of                                                               
Legislative Audit,  stated that  the division conducted  a sunset                                                               
review  on  the  State  Board  of  Registration  for  Architects,                                                               
Engineers,  and Land  Surveyors and  recommended an  extension of                                                               
the  sunset  date until  June  30,  2009.    She noted  that  the                                                               
division  made   three  recommendations   to  the  board.     She                                                               
explained:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The first  [recommendation] is  for the  legislature to                                                                    
     consider,  requiring mandatory  continuing professional                                                                    
     education.   A bill  was passed a  couple of  years ago                                                                    
     making  it permissive.   The  board has  not taken  any                                                                    
     action   to  date   to   implement   that,  and   we're                                                                    
     recommending that the  legislature consider making that                                                                    
     mandatory. ...  The second recommendation  involves the                                                                    
     continuing  evolution  of the  engineering  profession.                                                                    
     Alaska  recognizes  the   core  disciplines  of  civil,                                                                    
     chemical,  electrical,  and mechanical  engineering  as                                                                    
     well as  mining and petroleum engineers.   Other states                                                                    
     have   recognized   other   specialties  or   ...   sub                                                                    
     disciplines.   In this  report we're  recommending that                                                                    
     the  board,   in  conjunction  with   the  professional                                                                    
     society or  with the University of  Alaska, ... conduct                                                                    
     a  comprehensive review  regarding the  public benefits                                                                    
     and the  related costs associated with  recognizing the                                                                    
     additional licenses  in the Alaska structure.   And the                                                                    
     third   recommendation  that   we  make   is  for   the                                                                    
     legislature to consider  making the landscape architect                                                                    
     a  full voting  member of  the  board.   The number  of                                                                    
     landscape  architects  is  approximately  the  same  as                                                                    
     mining engineers, who do have  a designated seat on the                                                                    
     board.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:12:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAM KITO  III, Alaska Profession  Design Council,  explained that                                                               
the council is "an organization  of membership organizations that                                                               
represents  architects,  engineers,   land  surveyors,  landscape                                                               
architects, and we are here ...  to say that we fully support the                                                               
extension  of the  AELS Board  to 2009."   In  response to  Chair                                                               
Anderson, he said  that the board is relatively new  and they are                                                               
trying to  understand the board  composition issue.   He remarked                                                               
that,  at  the upcoming  February  meeting,  the board  plans  to                                                               
address the issue  of having a mining  versus a mining/geological                                                               
engineering  seat;  the  board  would prefer  to  deal  with  the                                                               
question  of the  landscape architect  position at  that time  as                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:14:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON pointed  out to  the new  committee members  that                                                               
there are  a multitude  of board and  commission extensions.   He                                                               
noted  that  in  the  past  adding on  to  the  bills  [while  in                                                               
committee] can slow the bill down.  He said:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     One thing  I fear is  if we  amend the bill  then maybe                                                                    
     your organization is suddenly  against the bill because                                                                    
     of the amendment,  and I don't think that  would be the                                                                    
     intent. And so  I don't intend to amend the  bill and I                                                                    
     hope the  committee takes that  lead, that we  can pass                                                                    
     it out  and separate  legislation can be  brought forth                                                                    
     addressing Ms. Davidson's concerns.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ROKEBERG  focused   on  Ms.   Davidson's  second                                                               
recommendation and  stated that Alaska  is one of the  few states                                                               
that  registers [engineers]  by specific  discipline, and  "we're                                                               
short  of numerous  other disciplines.   How  do we  handle these                                                               
people like a nuclear engineer or  somebody that came up here and                                                               
wanted to be licensed?"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KITO responded that most of  those people apply for a general                                                               
civil engineering  licenses or they  will not be registered.   He                                                               
remarked  that the  AELS Board  currently has  a subcommittee  to                                                               
look   into  the   issue   of   identification  of   registration                                                               
categories.   He  offered to  send  a report  to the  legislature                                                               
after the board's February meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  commented that he thought  the audit was                                                               
well done and had valid  recommendations, particularly in regards                                                               
to continuing education.  He also  remarked that it would be nice                                                               
to resolve the [issue of  whether to make the landscape architect                                                               
a full voting member of the board].                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT moved  to report HB 35 out  of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  zero  fiscal                                                               
note.   There being  no objection,  HB 35  was reported  from the                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              

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